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  • Was looking for a reason to learn sql, and was feeling the urge to play an oldschool pen and paper rpg.

    didn't like gurps licence, nor dnd's 'open' source licence, then while looking around, found legendary quest, which is kind of neat.…

  • somewhat random, got up to speed with SDL (simple media layer) to see what it could do for me to make my life easier, also rewrote my game engine to be a lot more generic and support unittest.

    grey image is having fun bluring the depth…

  • Note. Not my base mesh and texture, purchased a highres model from turbosquid (20000+ vertex, several 4098x4098 textures) and reduced it to 600 vert and a 2048x2048 texture page (for diffuse, alpha, normal and specular maps)

    was currious…

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    this seemed fine till trying to get Internet Explorer to work, in which case i would like to think flash works…

  • Made an update for the Bikini Beach Volley Ball game, 4 new girls, one new location.
    Screen shots are from iPhone and iPad.

  • a week of prototyping (6 prototypes), 1 of which failed and not included, another of which i am still working on and not online yet (procrastinating by blogging rather than finishing it)

    Seems prototyping is the popular thing to do at the…

  • capture of iPhone gameplay of my lattest game, Bikini Beach Volleybal

  • and so the quick 2 week project to recover from a big project/ experement with stencil shadows is now up to the 4 week mark.
    wrote a gui/ font system and tools pretty much from scratch which is a good way of making a 2 week project take 4…

  • because i can, though the play mechanic is pretty much pong, and after spending the day making animation i'm kind of wiped out to type anything interesting.

    the main photo, had one of my female friends critique the bikini girls appearance…

  • Bit of a slow week, finished 'chico of the dead' (once it is available in the app store i get to start promoting it, fun) and during the recovery time after a big project, tidied up some randoms bits of tech, simplified renderer, and added…

Submitted by davidcoen on

[img]http://freehost04.websamba.com/davidcoen/3d/3d_68.jpg" width="768" height="576">

ok, so how does this forum accept images, (looking fo html on switch)...
anyway, 3 days of my life, fist attempt at realisc texture~ (till now had not spent that much time texturing anything) also makes use of a global illumination texture generator that i wrote for the shadows...

1 day to model, and two slow days to texture... oh the fun.

DSC

Edited by - davidcoen on 25/07/2002 23:39:16

Submitted by Fluffy CatFood on Fri, 26/07/02 - 10:20 AM Permalink

nice job on the model and skin, especially since it was your first attempt at making a realistic one.
Got any tips or techniques you want to share?

Lead paint: delicious but deadly!

Submitted by souri on Fri, 26/07/02 - 4:25 PM Permalink

I've just switched on the HTML code option for the forum btw ..

Just curious as to how you went about skinning your mesh? Did you chop up your model,flatten, morph it back, and use some unwrap plugin ? Or did you use some third party program like Deepaint etc ? Or another way ?

I'm in the process of modelling a female model myself, and the steps of doing the aforementioned chop/flatten/morph/unwrap to texture seems a bit tedious... I'm hoping there's an easier way..

Submitted by davidcoen on Sun, 28/07/02 - 9:20 AM Permalink

'unwrap, morph, flatten'
Good god no, that sounds too much like work.

i do my models in lightwave, and since i hate the max poly selection tools (find them difficult to use) I cut up my model in to mirrorable bits and shapes that can be easily uv mapped (like cylinders or flat areas) so end up with a mesh for the top and bottom of the hands, the arm, half the head, and half the body (from neck to toe) and underside of shoe. uv mapping then takes about an hour to try and remove as much distortion as posible (with checkerboard texture applied to be able to see distortion)

//updated pic with some proportion change.

um, ment that it is my first attempt to make a realistic texture, had been avoiding doing real texture work on computer till now. had made 2 other 1000-2000 poly female meshes already

Submitted by Meatex Salami on Sun, 28/07/02 - 9:38 PM Permalink

personally i like max's tools better, mainly cause thats what i learnt to start with. From what i have seen in lw7 i don't like it, everything should be intergrated into the one application rather than having one for modeling and one for animation. I can't really see the benefit of doing it like that, then again i only used the applications for a short time.
Anyway the method you described in lw i have tried in max and personally i hate it. It's just so irritating i think, you just don't have enough control and it takes too long in my experience. Usefull if you have a basic model.
I know about the morpher method but don't know anything about it, hows that done? Keep in mind im still a beginner and haven't starting playing around with the morpher plugin.
I unwrap by detaching large parts of my model and flatening then arranging the UVW co-ords in UVW Unwrap. I find it's alot quicker and easier.
One thing i have heard good things about is deep uv, a companion to deep paint 3d (or you can just use it to uvw map) i haven't used it though so im not sure if it's any better.
Also just out of curiosity can max use shaders like maya or lw7? and when is max5 coming out?

Bloody hell its a giant harmonica!

Submitted by souri on Mon, 29/07/02 - 6:09 AM Permalink

The morphing bit I mentioned is just after the process where you split all your polygons, lay them flat, unwrap them, then morph the polygons back into the hidden copy.
And yeh, you're either a Max user or a Lightwave user.. their interfaces and methods are so different that if you learn one application first, you'll usually hate the other one. I'm use to Max, and I didn't like Lightwave, especially since you had a modeller part and an animation part (and the texturing had to be done in the animation part! - although they've changed this since.)

Submitted by Fluffy CatFood on Mon, 29/07/02 - 8:23 AM Permalink

For UV mapping in max, I just select the polys I want and then add the uvw map modifier, than adjust it etc, then apply an edit mesh, hide the poly i JUST MAPPED then select some more, . I used to do it by the detachment method but I had a few instances where the morpher would screw up. also when I was on windows 98, using morphers would cause max to crash.

Lead paint: delicious but deadly!

Submitted by davidcoen on Mon, 29/07/02 - 9:47 AM Permalink

well, to each his own, modelling tools end up being quite personal, but having shown my modeling method to several people at my old work i know i was 4 to 10 times faster than the max/ maya/ softimage users. Max is nice big piece of software, but i can fit my copy of LW4 onto a floppy disk and run about 10 instances of it without slowing down my 350Mhz piece of shit computer. all that said i do use max to uvmap and animate... // and get to wait 5 min for it to load, and again after each crash....

Submitted by souri on Mon, 29/07/02 - 11:50 AM Permalink

You're absolutely right.. use whatever's comfortable for you. And that male model is absolutely awesome. Great proportions (although maybe the neck is a little too wide?), and great skin work too.
The female model has some slight problems with proportion (arms a little too short... waist a little too wide from the side view.. I would've done the stomach area a bit taller.. the head is absolutely perfect though).. And I like how you've toned down the colour for the male model compared the the female one.. good stuff!

Posted by davidcoen on

[img]http://freehost04.websamba.com/davidcoen/3d/3d_68.jpg" width="768" height="576">

ok, so how does this forum accept images, (looking fo html on switch)...
anyway, 3 days of my life, fist attempt at realisc texture~ (till now had not spent that much time texturing anything) also makes use of a global illumination texture generator that i wrote for the shadows...

1 day to model, and two slow days to texture... oh the fun.

DSC

Edited by - davidcoen on 25/07/2002 23:39:16


Submitted by Fluffy CatFood on Fri, 26/07/02 - 10:20 AM Permalink

nice job on the model and skin, especially since it was your first attempt at making a realistic one.
Got any tips or techniques you want to share?

Lead paint: delicious but deadly!

Submitted by souri on Fri, 26/07/02 - 4:25 PM Permalink

I've just switched on the HTML code option for the forum btw ..

Just curious as to how you went about skinning your mesh? Did you chop up your model,flatten, morph it back, and use some unwrap plugin ? Or did you use some third party program like Deepaint etc ? Or another way ?

I'm in the process of modelling a female model myself, and the steps of doing the aforementioned chop/flatten/morph/unwrap to texture seems a bit tedious... I'm hoping there's an easier way..

Submitted by davidcoen on Sun, 28/07/02 - 9:20 AM Permalink

'unwrap, morph, flatten'
Good god no, that sounds too much like work.

i do my models in lightwave, and since i hate the max poly selection tools (find them difficult to use) I cut up my model in to mirrorable bits and shapes that can be easily uv mapped (like cylinders or flat areas) so end up with a mesh for the top and bottom of the hands, the arm, half the head, and half the body (from neck to toe) and underside of shoe. uv mapping then takes about an hour to try and remove as much distortion as posible (with checkerboard texture applied to be able to see distortion)

//updated pic with some proportion change.

um, ment that it is my first attempt to make a realistic texture, had been avoiding doing real texture work on computer till now. had made 2 other 1000-2000 poly female meshes already

Submitted by Meatex Salami on Sun, 28/07/02 - 9:38 PM Permalink

personally i like max's tools better, mainly cause thats what i learnt to start with. From what i have seen in lw7 i don't like it, everything should be intergrated into the one application rather than having one for modeling and one for animation. I can't really see the benefit of doing it like that, then again i only used the applications for a short time.
Anyway the method you described in lw i have tried in max and personally i hate it. It's just so irritating i think, you just don't have enough control and it takes too long in my experience. Usefull if you have a basic model.
I know about the morpher method but don't know anything about it, hows that done? Keep in mind im still a beginner and haven't starting playing around with the morpher plugin.
I unwrap by detaching large parts of my model and flatening then arranging the UVW co-ords in UVW Unwrap. I find it's alot quicker and easier.
One thing i have heard good things about is deep uv, a companion to deep paint 3d (or you can just use it to uvw map) i haven't used it though so im not sure if it's any better.
Also just out of curiosity can max use shaders like maya or lw7? and when is max5 coming out?

Bloody hell its a giant harmonica!

Submitted by souri on Mon, 29/07/02 - 6:09 AM Permalink

The morphing bit I mentioned is just after the process where you split all your polygons, lay them flat, unwrap them, then morph the polygons back into the hidden copy.
And yeh, you're either a Max user or a Lightwave user.. their interfaces and methods are so different that if you learn one application first, you'll usually hate the other one. I'm use to Max, and I didn't like Lightwave, especially since you had a modeller part and an animation part (and the texturing had to be done in the animation part! - although they've changed this since.)

Submitted by Fluffy CatFood on Mon, 29/07/02 - 8:23 AM Permalink

For UV mapping in max, I just select the polys I want and then add the uvw map modifier, than adjust it etc, then apply an edit mesh, hide the poly i JUST MAPPED then select some more, . I used to do it by the detachment method but I had a few instances where the morpher would screw up. also when I was on windows 98, using morphers would cause max to crash.

Lead paint: delicious but deadly!

Submitted by davidcoen on Mon, 29/07/02 - 9:47 AM Permalink

well, to each his own, modelling tools end up being quite personal, but having shown my modeling method to several people at my old work i know i was 4 to 10 times faster than the max/ maya/ softimage users. Max is nice big piece of software, but i can fit my copy of LW4 onto a floppy disk and run about 10 instances of it without slowing down my 350Mhz piece of shit computer. all that said i do use max to uvmap and animate... // and get to wait 5 min for it to load, and again after each crash....

Submitted by souri on Mon, 29/07/02 - 11:50 AM Permalink

You're absolutely right.. use whatever's comfortable for you. And that male model is absolutely awesome. Great proportions (although maybe the neck is a little too wide?), and great skin work too.
The female model has some slight problems with proportion (arms a little too short... waist a little too wide from the side view.. I would've done the stomach area a bit taller.. the head is absolutely perfect though).. And I like how you've toned down the colour for the male model compared the the female one.. good stuff!