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Submitted by bullet21 on
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My computer runs at 800x600, but everything looks gigantic, i'm just wondering if i change the display optins to make it 1024x768 would it cause any performance loss or does it not affect the PC as a whole and MAX please help, the size makes me feel old and blind.

Submitted by Kalescent on Fri, 25/06/04 - 7:25 AM Permalink

Couple things to note,

1) Your monitors refresh rate capabilities.
2) Your graphics card capabilities.

177" CRT monitors these days have no probs dealing with 1024 x 768 at around 85Hz. Which is what I'm running on our browser PC. Anything lower than 60-65Hz and youll probably find your eyes bloodshot and sandpaper feeling after a couple hours of solid modelling [:P]

If you have a older graphics card (geforce 2 and backwards), youll notice a big performance hit in Max etc when rotation and zooming and moving around in your 3d environment, but it shouldnt be too bad if your dealing with a few thousand tris, and the performance gets worse the higher the res you choose, generally speaking.

Submitted by bullet21 on Fri, 25/06/04 - 7:44 AM Permalink

i've got an mx440, which is a geforce 4 i think so that should be ok, but how do i check and change the Hz

Edit: never mind, i found out how, mines is currently on 60 Hz, what does this mean, and should i change the resolution to 1024x768 and if so should i change the Hz as well.

Submitted by Kalescent on Fri, 25/06/04 - 7:51 AM Permalink

I think most standard 17" monitors these days run up to at least 75Hz running at 1024 x 768.

Its okay running at 60Hz - most games run at that unless you purposely overide the in-game refresh rates, I just find that long periods of time staring at the screen, really takes its toll running less than 65Hz.

Submitted by Anuxinamoon on Wed, 07/07/04 - 10:22 PM Permalink

yeah you eyes start to catch on fire if you work on a 60hz monitor. ( i know i used to have to put my eyes out with old coke >_<)
oh and if you crank your monitor up too hight it should say out of range, if that happens dont do anything, just wait 15 secs and it should go back to normal

Submitted by Skribble on Wed, 07/07/04 - 10:52 PM Permalink

i got a radeon 128mb, and a LG 17" and i run at 75mhz refresh rate and res is 1152x864. and i get no problems.

Submitted by bullet21 on Thu, 08/07/04 - 6:08 PM Permalink

i'm running it at 800*600 still, but i use 100 hz for the refresh rate, my eyes don't hurt as much anymore either.

Submitted by Malus on Thu, 08/07/04 - 7:03 PM Permalink

Why are you running your resolution so low?
May as well be developing on a Gameboy.

At work I run at 1280 x 960 on a 17" monitor and at home I run 1600 x 1200 on a 21" monitor.

Submitted by bullet21 on Thu, 08/07/04 - 7:06 PM Permalink

all the icons and stuff get to small when you do it at anything greater than 800*600

Submitted by Kalescent on Thu, 08/07/04 - 9:12 PM Permalink

Malus : [:O] god damn, I'm not sure I could fit any of those in our office. [;)]

Submitted by Aven on Thu, 08/07/04 - 10:38 PM Permalink

quote:Originally posted by bullet21

all the icons and stuff get to small when you do it at anything greater than 800*600

If you are running Windows, then just change the icon size. It really isn't that hard. The whole idea of having higher reses is so that all the extra crap will be smaller. More room in all those fancy graphical apps for working. Not for displaying toolboxes and bars.

Submitted by bullet21 on Thu, 08/07/04 - 11:32 PM Permalink

yeah, but then the toolbars and even web pages and stuff get smaller. not just the icons on the desktop.

Submitted by MoonUnit on Fri, 09/07/04 - 4:17 AM Permalink

its not like there tiny man.... im sure you wont lose them ;)

Submitted by bullet21 on Fri, 09/07/04 - 5:43 AM Permalink

i'm short sited and wear glasses [:p} SERIOUS

Submitted by Malus on Fri, 09/07/04 - 6:57 PM Permalink

Well if you cant make the resolution higher because of your eyesight why not buy a bigger screen then up the resolution. lol [:P]

Submitted by Johnn on Sat, 10/07/04 - 3:15 AM Permalink

you can alter the size of most windows stuff, including icons, folder titles and web page text (provided the size has not been set with CCS). Have a good look through the various desktop setting and tinker. Other programs may not be so accommodating and will prove a limiting factor. eg- Freehand and Flash MX palettes don't fit well into smaller desktop settings and leave almost no room for viewing the actual work :(

800x600 is pretty low res for current hardware standards and most graphics programs are designed for larger desktops. 1024x768 is about standard for 17" monitors by my reckoning. As the others said - Don't below 75Hz...I find that if I am not looking directly at the monitor at low refresh rates I can see the flicker! 75hz is good, no need to go over I find... word of warning on setting high screen size and re-fresh rates- I understand that you can actually disable windows settings and set you monitor to other 'non-recommended' settings. If windows offers a screen size and refresh rate that sound too good to be true don't use it until you have cross checked with the monitor manual that the monitor can do this. damage may otherwise occur.

Just a thought- if you have a fairly new graphics card, or are looking to upgrade soon, you could look at 2 monitors- this would allow all sorts of options .eg low res for a palettes monitor and higher res for you image... and may be cheaper than a large single screen!

Posted by bullet21 on
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My computer runs at 800x600, but everything looks gigantic, i'm just wondering if i change the display optins to make it 1024x768 would it cause any performance loss or does it not affect the PC as a whole and MAX please help, the size makes me feel old and blind.


Submitted by Kalescent on Fri, 25/06/04 - 7:25 AM Permalink

Couple things to note,

1) Your monitors refresh rate capabilities.
2) Your graphics card capabilities.

177" CRT monitors these days have no probs dealing with 1024 x 768 at around 85Hz. Which is what I'm running on our browser PC. Anything lower than 60-65Hz and youll probably find your eyes bloodshot and sandpaper feeling after a couple hours of solid modelling [:P]

If you have a older graphics card (geforce 2 and backwards), youll notice a big performance hit in Max etc when rotation and zooming and moving around in your 3d environment, but it shouldnt be too bad if your dealing with a few thousand tris, and the performance gets worse the higher the res you choose, generally speaking.

Submitted by bullet21 on Fri, 25/06/04 - 7:44 AM Permalink

i've got an mx440, which is a geforce 4 i think so that should be ok, but how do i check and change the Hz

Edit: never mind, i found out how, mines is currently on 60 Hz, what does this mean, and should i change the resolution to 1024x768 and if so should i change the Hz as well.

Submitted by Kalescent on Fri, 25/06/04 - 7:51 AM Permalink

I think most standard 17" monitors these days run up to at least 75Hz running at 1024 x 768.

Its okay running at 60Hz - most games run at that unless you purposely overide the in-game refresh rates, I just find that long periods of time staring at the screen, really takes its toll running less than 65Hz.

Submitted by Anuxinamoon on Wed, 07/07/04 - 10:22 PM Permalink

yeah you eyes start to catch on fire if you work on a 60hz monitor. ( i know i used to have to put my eyes out with old coke >_<)
oh and if you crank your monitor up too hight it should say out of range, if that happens dont do anything, just wait 15 secs and it should go back to normal

Submitted by Skribble on Wed, 07/07/04 - 10:52 PM Permalink

i got a radeon 128mb, and a LG 17" and i run at 75mhz refresh rate and res is 1152x864. and i get no problems.

Submitted by bullet21 on Thu, 08/07/04 - 6:08 PM Permalink

i'm running it at 800*600 still, but i use 100 hz for the refresh rate, my eyes don't hurt as much anymore either.

Submitted by Malus on Thu, 08/07/04 - 7:03 PM Permalink

Why are you running your resolution so low?
May as well be developing on a Gameboy.

At work I run at 1280 x 960 on a 17" monitor and at home I run 1600 x 1200 on a 21" monitor.

Submitted by bullet21 on Thu, 08/07/04 - 7:06 PM Permalink

all the icons and stuff get to small when you do it at anything greater than 800*600

Submitted by Kalescent on Thu, 08/07/04 - 9:12 PM Permalink

Malus : [:O] god damn, I'm not sure I could fit any of those in our office. [;)]

Submitted by Aven on Thu, 08/07/04 - 10:38 PM Permalink

quote:Originally posted by bullet21

all the icons and stuff get to small when you do it at anything greater than 800*600

If you are running Windows, then just change the icon size. It really isn't that hard. The whole idea of having higher reses is so that all the extra crap will be smaller. More room in all those fancy graphical apps for working. Not for displaying toolboxes and bars.

Submitted by bullet21 on Thu, 08/07/04 - 11:32 PM Permalink

yeah, but then the toolbars and even web pages and stuff get smaller. not just the icons on the desktop.

Submitted by MoonUnit on Fri, 09/07/04 - 4:17 AM Permalink

its not like there tiny man.... im sure you wont lose them ;)

Submitted by bullet21 on Fri, 09/07/04 - 5:43 AM Permalink

i'm short sited and wear glasses [:p} SERIOUS

Submitted by Malus on Fri, 09/07/04 - 6:57 PM Permalink

Well if you cant make the resolution higher because of your eyesight why not buy a bigger screen then up the resolution. lol [:P]

Submitted by Johnn on Sat, 10/07/04 - 3:15 AM Permalink

you can alter the size of most windows stuff, including icons, folder titles and web page text (provided the size has not been set with CCS). Have a good look through the various desktop setting and tinker. Other programs may not be so accommodating and will prove a limiting factor. eg- Freehand and Flash MX palettes don't fit well into smaller desktop settings and leave almost no room for viewing the actual work :(

800x600 is pretty low res for current hardware standards and most graphics programs are designed for larger desktops. 1024x768 is about standard for 17" monitors by my reckoning. As the others said - Don't below 75Hz...I find that if I am not looking directly at the monitor at low refresh rates I can see the flicker! 75hz is good, no need to go over I find... word of warning on setting high screen size and re-fresh rates- I understand that you can actually disable windows settings and set you monitor to other 'non-recommended' settings. If windows offers a screen size and refresh rate that sound too good to be true don't use it until you have cross checked with the monitor manual that the monitor can do this. damage may otherwise occur.

Just a thought- if you have a fairly new graphics card, or are looking to upgrade soon, you could look at 2 monitors- this would allow all sorts of options .eg low res for a palettes monitor and higher res for you image... and may be cheaper than a large single screen!