QANTM lecturer

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Just got a casual gig tutoring at QANTM.
If anyone on Sumea is currently studying there drop us a line.
Looking forward to getting to know the new batch of students.

Also congratulations to Hydro for the position in production, you rock buddy.


Malus! How did you get that job?!! What stuff will you be teaching? [:)]

Malus's picture

Not actually lecturing, just working as a lab supervisor.

I will be helping students with questions they have on during labs, mainly game dev and multimedia students so they'll be using max, photoshop, maya, flash, director etc.
I just sorta fell into it, I studied at QANTM and know most of the staff, when the previous tutor got work in production I was contacted about filling his role.
Its not permanent just yet as the previous tutor is on a trial but I'm totally sure he will work out in production, hes damn good at CG, taught me heaps. I'm really looking forward to starting.
Came at a great time too I just moved out!!

Sorceror Bob's picture

nice work malus :)

Brain's picture

Congrats dude! Will hafta drop into QANTM and see how the ol' place is doin' @:-)

Dilphinus's picture

Hi~

How's QANTM like? I would like to do a course at QANTM. Is the degree course still on hold?

shiptu shaboo's picture

times have changed @ qantm i recieved my scholership after the games course was divided into two streams programming and animation,
ive had many friends go through the previous diploma and from what they have told me it was not good.
i think this in part is due to the fact that most people were good at animation or programming not both.
the animation diploma i did was very rewarding for me, i learnt a lot.
but there were students who did not have a grasp of technology and they did suffer because of this.
my advice would be to get a fundamental knowledge of max, maya and flash before entering.

Malus's picture

From what I can tell the split into 2 streams has really helped the course structures, alot of talented students there now who have really got there act together.

I actually think alot of the reason the earlier groups had trouble was because they sat around playing games instead of learning, these new guys seem to have more motivation.

Sorceror Bob's picture

Wow qantm has finally split the programming and art apart.. Bout time they got their act together in that regard...

I apologise for the cynicism, but many ex students I've talked to have had very little positive things to say about the curriculum.

Malus'll turn it around!!

Malus's picture

lol god dont put that on my shoulders jesus!!

Sorceror Bob's picture

hahah too late, the burden is yours.

carry it like some.. load.. bearing.. monkey of sorts!

GooberMan's picture

Yes, QANTM split the Animation and Code streams in to two separate courses. I was a part of the first group to undertake the new Code course. It was good last year, but now that they've gotten rid of Christian Schladetsch I'm not sure how good it would be (Christian went against QANTM's idea of teaching JET and tried to teach people how to do things from scratch - which worked for me at least :) )

Pointy's picture

"Mr Fergason, You have a telephone call, line one. Donna is wondering if you picked up the standard uniform youll be wearing, t-shirt, pants, pitch fork and pointy tail."

[:p]

Dilphinus's picture

Hmmm...seems like Qantm is getting better reviews. I'm still very tempted to go there. How's the industry in Brisbane? I've left Brisbane 3 years ago (I'm in Singapore now). And I'm not very much updated. I've got background in 3D Studio Max and Softimage and traditional animation. But lost touch a little. Thinking of AIE or Qantm. Please advise! Thanks!

Malus's picture

The industry is growing here in Brisbane but unfortunately not much work, Ive been applying constantly for the last 6-8 months and nothing. I don't think Im that bad, lol, so it has to be a lack of positions.

misty's picture

Hey everyone at QANTM, I'm the sister of Christian Schladetsch, I believe he lectured there last year...I've currently lost track of him, and I'm hoping one of you might be able to give me an idea of where he is, a contact address even? Cheers, thanks for your help guys!

Moose's picture

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Originally posted by Dilphinus

Hmmm...seems like Qantm is getting better reviews. I'm still very tempted to go there. How's the industry in Brisbane? I've left Brisbane 3 years ago (I'm in Singapore now). And I'm not very much updated. I've got background in 3D Studio Max and Softimage and traditional animation. But lost touch a little. Thinking of AIE or Qantm. Please advise! Thanks!

I'm from Singapore and thinking of applying for the animation course at QANTM.I've got programming experience and i'm a self taught 3D amatuer artist.But i prefer the artistic side of game development hence the decision to go into animation.

fuzzmeister's picture

Hi Misty,

Christian is currentley working at www.sydac.com.au in Sydney i think according to one of his posts at a qantm ex-students forums.

good luck :)

Vengeance's picture

Christian:

Phone (business): 08 8239 3600
Mobile: 0422670968
Email: christian.schladetsch@sydac.com.au

I think that's right anyway.

souri's picture

I think Christian registered on this forum shortly after that message, and I'm sure he would have contacted her through with the forum email by then, so happy ending for all. [:)]

shiva's picture

in regards to them using your game, you might want to check the student contract
it pretty specifically states that qantm has the right to use any student work for promotion

Malus's picture

Exactly what I was going to say Shiva.

I signed it and they used my work.

I'll admit during my time studying there I had no great love for qantm, due to many reasons, from lecturers leaving to the course structure but I'm a big enough man to realise I played a part in my time there and if I didn't gain anything from it then in the end its partially my fault.

I look at that time as a year with like minded people, access to tools I wouldn't have and teachers who tried everything they could to help during a rough time. I also networked my butt off.

I also worked as a tutor at qantm after my studies there and am now in the games industry and even though I credit myself for alot of the progress to get there I will say qantm helped me a great deal, yeah we had issues when we studied there but I can tell you that most of these have been delt with and the courses are much better.

I've found alot of people winging about how qantm ruined there chances, thats ridiculous, you are in control of your own destiny and if you didn't find anything from your time there then its just as much your fault.

One thing I have noticed that I'd like to put across is this, why is it only after they leave that people suddenly become vocal about there issues? Thats not helping anyone, you have a problem then you deal with it, not go sulk and then become bitter after the fact.

As for qantm taking credit for your work well I have no comment on that other than its something you need to take up with them, in private, your only going to get a bucket load of lawyers knocking on your door defaming them on here.

If you have issues with qantm bring it up with them.

Leviron's picture

I see why my friend asked for a refund right away last year.

Malus's picture

Let me start by stating, I understand my post came across as a personal attack which I apologise for, it was never meant to be directed soley at you.

Secondly, I have no invested interests in Qantm.

Yes I worked there for a few months and enjoyed my time there but my loyalty was and always will be to the students and staff, not management, I was paid to help people not to be a marketing spokesman.

Im glad you tried to do something about your problems and I hope that you are not being ripped off because that is just plain wrong.

My problem is I constantly read/hear alot of meaningless whinging from past qantm students who I watched sit around doing nothing when they studied there then have the nerve to complain that they were ripped off.

BTW yes I studied at qantm, during one of its worst years, we had countless teachers leaving and alot of course structure changes, if it wasn't for the helpfulness of the other students and the teachers, especially Christian and Steve I probably would have left along with most of the year.

The thing is during the time I was employed as a tutor there I saw alot of this change, it was really good to see qantm had listened and learnt from there mistakes, I try to be open minded about things (although alot will probably disagree no doubt) and seeing a company actively try and change was a great thing and restored alot of my faith in not just qantm but business in general.

I was attempting to say that you should feel free to voice concern but please try and do it with less venom, you will in the end look more like some bitter, immature kid than someone who has actually been wronged.

As for me being wrong about the definition of defaming well I was actually just worried that you may cause yourself some grief.

One last thing, Qantm made mistakes, there is no doubting that.
Some very bad ones, some not so bad, but in the end I believe they have learnt alot from these troubles and in my opinion have redeemed alot (not all) of there past discrepancies, they still have along way to go to fix there reputation and I believe they need to actively do that.

This of course doesn't help those who went through the bad times I know but thats something each person needs to take up with Qantm and probably should if they feel wronged.

In the end I think Qantm is now a good place to learn if and only if you are willing to put in the effort. Most courses are 1 year long or shorter so it is primarily a place to learn the basic to intermediate skills you need, advancing those skills in a year is really up to the individual.

It may not get you that job straight after you graduate but really anyone who believes they will be handed a golden certificate at the end of any course is fooling themselves.

A word to Qantm's management department.
I know alot of you read Sumea posts, please reply to some of these students, there is obviously some bad feelings out there and it doesn't help them, yourselves, your current students or future students if you ignore them, this issue doesn't look like going away fast, if anything I have noticed it growing.

Lets put this to rest hey guys.

Dean

Red 5's picture

FerretallicA, unfortunately you'll find that practically any game dev studio you end up working for will have a clause in it's employee contract stating that any personal game development undertaken while under their employment will automatically belong to them, even if it's done in your own time at home... Qantm obviously have a similar stipulation.

It's interesting to read your greviences about Qantm, I don't know much about the place other than the odd (sorry to say) negative comment I've heard from time to time including one that my former employer made after returning from a graduation day there... "guy's, don't worry, your jobs are safe" and it wasn't because of any lack of student talent, he just thought a lot more should have been achieved from a graduating class.

So what's the problem... are they teaching stuff that's relivent to getting a job in the industry?

Blitz's picture

"unfortunately you'll find that practically any game dev studio you end up working for will have a clause in it's employee contract stating that any personal game development undertaken while under their employment will automatically belong to them"
Are you serious? That is insane. Thats like a mechanic having to sign a contract saying if you do any work on you car at home the car becomes property of the garage...well not quite.
I personally wouldn't be comfortable signing a contract that included a clause like that.
CYer, Blitz

Happy Camper's picture

quote:


Originally posted by Malus

My problem is I constantly read/hear alot of meaningless whinging from past qantm students who I watched sit around doing nothing when they studied there then have the nerve to complain that they were ripped off.

Yup, thats pretty true, I'll even admit to being one of them[xx(].

To start with i was very enthusiastic, when the teachers had to repeat excersises for the slower students i would try and get a head of the class and add something extra to my work or try to learn something new. For a little while I was one of the top students until my enthusiasm ran out. Thats when i started playing games, it started with net games, then moved to normal single player games and then I played LAN (which I had never done before and found very addictive). About that time Jedi Outcast, GTA3, Battlefield 1942 and Mafia were released which made matters worse and the fact that they were easy to get because of Network drives and other students dumping them there didn't help.

There were several reasons for my loss of enthusiasm, but both QANTM and I are to blame. QANTM tried to squeze a 1 year course into 9 months and as such had to cut modules, however we complained and QANTM fixed it, but it cost us our holidays they got cut down to 2 weeks (should have been approx 6-8 weeks). Certain modules cut into our major project time by 2 weeks, definetly QANTMs fault. On a presention day the Head teacher liked to take my computer for the presention (which was in a different room), which meant the next day i had to set up my computer all over again and then find any missing hardware (headphones usually, some i never found). Ofcourse at the end of the day I only have myself to blame, I was Lazy, I played games and I listened to the negative comments of other students. I could go on but i think i've gone to far already.

I should add that the Course i attended was actually in Sydney and that it was a multimedia diploma. Also that QANTM were given a few rooms and offices in a TAFE, not their own facilities. And only one QANTM representative (for 3-4 classes), the rest were industry experts or TAFE teachers.

Red 5's picture

quote:


Originally posted by Blitz

"unfortunately you'll find that practically any game dev studio you end up working for will have a clause in it's employee contract stating that any personal game development undertaken while under their employment will automatically belong to them"
Are you serious? That is insane. Thats like a mechanic having to sign a contract saying if you do any work on you car at home the car becomes property of the garage...well not quite.
I personally wouldn't be comfortable signing a contract that included a clause like that.
CYer, Blitz

It's true alright, if you don't sign you don't work, it's as simple as that. The argument is that you're using technology you've learned at your job.
In fact several years ago a number of staff left their jobs at one of the major Australian game dev studios for this reason... they all had their own little projects going on outside of work and refused to sign a revised employee contract that would effectively give the legal rights to everything they developed over to their employer, even if it's simply an idea.