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Submitted by hobonation on
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Yo, I bought a Wacom graphics tablet a couple of weeks ago, and cant use it for crap. I havent used it in ages and seem to really suck at drawing on it. I gave up after i started getting worse... N e ideas?[:(

Submitted by hobonation on Fri, 19/03/04 - 3:57 AM Permalink

I knew youd say that...N e ideas on what brushes, tools etc i should start to use 1st? know n e tutorials?

Submitted by Aven on Fri, 19/03/04 - 4:29 AM Permalink

Well, what program are you painting with? I know that a lot of people will say that what app you use doesn't make a lot of difference, it is the user... but there is another side to it as well. The user may find a different app to be more accessable or easier to use. A lot of people love using PS for painting, but I could never get to grips with it. I love Painter for painting. If your Wacom came with Painter Classic, then load it up and give it a go. You may like it you may not :)

I don't know how many tutes you will find on using a Wacom... "Now hold the Wacom pen exactly like a real pen" :p

Just fiddle around and get used to the feel of it. Don't try painting the most amasing masterpiece this world has had the privelige to witness. Just fiddle around whacking colours on a canvas. Go from their. Get used to how the pressure stylus works (and the others if you have an Intuos).

If it is any consilation, I still can't draw for shit using one :)

Submitted by MoonUnit on Fri, 19/03/04 - 5:23 AM Permalink

hey hobo i got a tablet a while back and boy did i suck with it aswell. I couldnt sketch or anything the stuff that i profuced looked worse then the back wall of a kindergarten class room. Ive gone to sketching and scanning then colouring by mouse. Tablets probably arent for everyone but keep at it untill you know whether or not its you.

Submitted by Kalescent on Fri, 19/03/04 - 6:03 AM Permalink

well ive only been "TABLET'ing" for about 2 weeks now - my Fiance's tablet broke ( Genius 1212HR III ) a nice big tablet - and when it did break - now i refuse to go back to painting with a mouse - although i have done in the past.

Now ive got a wacom graphire 3 and it rocks - tis a wee bit hard to get used to - but if your using it solid for a couple of days - youll really get the hang of it... i rarely use my mouse anymore. even use my tablet in max....

Submitted by hobonation on Fri, 19/03/04 - 6:05 AM Permalink

yeh, thanks. I know i can draw well with a mouse, so maybe they arent for me. I thought it would be the same as drawing in a sketch book or on papaer but i was unpleasantly suprised. O well, its still a valuable piece of equiptment, atleast now i fit in on sumea!

Submitted by MoonUnit on Fri, 19/03/04 - 8:06 AM Permalink

heh heh ditto to that hobo, but ive seen you produce some neat stuff and that was obviously done without a tablet

Submitted by matias on Fri, 19/03/04 - 8:31 PM Permalink

ok man, when I first got my tablet I really sucked for AGES, I mean months, it was quite embarrasing, but like HazarD, my tablet broke just recently and I couldn't live without it! I ran out and got a new one straight away! of course, I had $17 for the next week, bread and carrots people!
Um, yeah so just keep using it, and trust me, eventually you it wont even be a concious thing using your tablet!

Submitted by Makk on Sat, 20/03/04 - 12:02 AM Permalink

Heh, I've had mine for a few years and I cant still cant sketch very well with it.
If you find it to smooth to draw on put a piece of paper over it (or under) and that it will give it a bit more grip feel to it. For painting though, I find its the best.
Keep at it though, eventually you will get used to it and laugh at the day that you preferred using a mouse :)

Submitted by Johnn on Sat, 20/03/04 - 2:34 AM Permalink

hmmm, gotta get me a tablet...and a computer to attached it to! Does anyone actually do sketching/drawing with their tablet here, or is it used as a painting tool primarly?

The only time I have used a tablet was for photo collage work in Photoshop. I found the job took the same time but I had MUCH more accuracy masking complex shapes, and no 'dead wrist' at the end of the day.

Submitted by matias on Sat, 20/03/04 - 11:56 PM Permalink

I sometimes sketch with it, but I think much better on paper, I use it to finish my stuff, becuase undo comes in supa-handy, but on a sketch you dont worry about mistakes... Also I dont think a tablet give you the freedom of movement you get in real life, well a little tablet, I have no exp with those huge tablets, does anyone? If so enlighten us! (at the risk of jealous backlash) [:D]

Submitted by hobonation on Sun, 21/03/04 - 8:39 AM Permalink

mines the good ol' 4x5 Wacom graphire 3

Submitted by Kalescent on Sun, 21/03/04 - 1:07 PM Permalink

when you draw really quick lines,.. do you get rough edges ? almost like a line drawn with 5 or 6 points linked by straight lines ? instead of a smooth surved line ??

I get this with my new Grapire 3 ????? of course only when i draw lines super fast,.. but sometimes you gotta,... for like hair,.. or something.. i hope i didnt buy a dud ;)

Submitted by matias on Mon, 22/03/04 - 1:24 AM Permalink

yeah, mines a 4x5 graphire 3, I don't get so much rough edges as that it almost jags or catches doing fine detail, I think thats just something you got to work around with a small tablet. With that said, I had a really cheap Acecad green thing that was the same size but had more levels, it could handle small stuff but on a regular basis, it would just draw when the pen was in the recognized distant, not when you actually touched the tablet! That was really anoying! So I'll take the slight jagging action over just drawing willy-nilly over what you are doing! Ples the Graphire 3 looks sweet! haha

Submitted by hobonation on Mon, 22/03/04 - 1:34 AM Permalink

lol, yeh...i cant use mine,but it looks cool on my desk!

Submitted by matias on Mon, 22/03/04 - 2:05 AM Permalink

And isn't that what really counts people? [:D] But like I said before well, basically what everyone said, pratice. Perhaps after the Modelling comp is finished we could look into some skill building thing in Quick Activities...

Submitted by Kalescent on Mon, 22/03/04 - 2:54 AM Permalink

yeah mines a 6 x 8 - it goes good,.. but the old genius tab was a 12 x 12, and so far save the pressure sensativity - ive found it to be better in every way... + the genius tablet was only 150 bux 2 years ago....

damn the wacom is so Sexah tho!! the genius was a bloody eyesore - great big hunk of non-aerodynamic plastic, i mean,.. its gotta fly right when you throw it across the room in frustration,.. theres nothing worse than being pissed, throwing your tablet, and having it put your throwing arm to shame by hopelessly landing 2 feet from your arm due to lack of aerodynamic capabilities.... ... ahhh... yeah.

Submitted by matias on Mon, 22/03/04 - 3:05 AM Permalink

HAHA, oh man, there is nothing as frustating as a finicky tablet!! I found with my old one doing the rocking-back-and-forth-growling-while-shaking-the-computer-desk alot!!

Submitted by hobonation on Thu, 25/03/04 - 4:58 AM Permalink

GOD DAMN IT
Well, I've just drawn my first graphics tablet picture. Ive coloured it well and Im very happy with it. I quickly erase some of the original lines then hit save, and, waddyaknow.. "This program has experienced an error" send error report? then: "WE APPOLOGISE FOR THE INCONVINIENCE"
Poof* and its gone.

[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!]

I think ill join a cult[xx(]

Submitted by Kalescent on Thu, 25/03/04 - 7:42 AM Permalink

LMFAO that dude looks so funny!!!!!!!!! honestly you should make him a cartoon character - i can just seem him as the funiest bird type dude - doing really stupid things,.. like the white ninja comics ;)

Pity about the photoshop drama - if youve got a cracked version,.. then.. yeah.... .. dont let it put you off tho - you could start a cult following with that character there!!

Submitted by matias on Thu, 25/03/04 - 10:44 AM Permalink

On the bright side the bird has a perfect expression for that exact scenario![:p] Sorry, I know how shiet losing a heap of work can be. Seriously tho he has some attitude goin on and cartoon characters really need... well.. character! Sweet

Submitted by hobonation on Thu, 25/03/04 - 6:50 PM Permalink

hehe, yeh..he's the dark lord of Ravens. I've started drawing heaps of characters, like da ravens arch nemasis, the polar bear. N e ways I'm over it now...I'll start drawing him again.

O and I used Painter Classic, I really should install paintshop, I do have it somewhere.(a LEGAL version ill just add)

Submitted by Kane on Fri, 26/03/04 - 11:40 PM Permalink

bummer about the error Jake...

that bird is seriously sick looking tho!

can't wait to see the polar bear guy![:D]

Submitted by bullet21 on Sat, 27/03/04 - 1:55 AM Permalink

Hey hobo do u know flash. I would love to see your characters in a flash animation.

Submitted by hobonation on Mon, 29/03/04 - 12:40 AM Permalink

Yep I do flash animation. My Flash Characters are alot different to my freehand drawn characters though...

Submitted by Aven on Tue, 30/03/04 - 2:59 AM Permalink

if you are using to PS to inlarge the pic, make sure that you have the "Bicubic Sampling" option enables in the "Resize Image" Window. It is set to none at the moment (from the pixel town I bet ;) ).

If you are just using the "Free Transform" tool, then make sure that you have "Bicubic Sampling" enabled in your prefs. Sorry, I can't remember what pref tab it is under.

He looks really cool, but you may want to work at a slightly larger res, at it looks a little blurry :)

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Yo, I bought a Wacom graphics tablet a couple of weeks ago, and cant use it for crap. I havent used it in ages and seem to really suck at drawing on it. I gave up after i started getting worse... N e ideas?[:(


Submitted by hobonation on Fri, 19/03/04 - 3:57 AM Permalink

I knew youd say that...N e ideas on what brushes, tools etc i should start to use 1st? know n e tutorials?

Submitted by Aven on Fri, 19/03/04 - 4:29 AM Permalink

Well, what program are you painting with? I know that a lot of people will say that what app you use doesn't make a lot of difference, it is the user... but there is another side to it as well. The user may find a different app to be more accessable or easier to use. A lot of people love using PS for painting, but I could never get to grips with it. I love Painter for painting. If your Wacom came with Painter Classic, then load it up and give it a go. You may like it you may not :)

I don't know how many tutes you will find on using a Wacom... "Now hold the Wacom pen exactly like a real pen" :p

Just fiddle around and get used to the feel of it. Don't try painting the most amasing masterpiece this world has had the privelige to witness. Just fiddle around whacking colours on a canvas. Go from their. Get used to how the pressure stylus works (and the others if you have an Intuos).

If it is any consilation, I still can't draw for shit using one :)

Submitted by MoonUnit on Fri, 19/03/04 - 5:23 AM Permalink

hey hobo i got a tablet a while back and boy did i suck with it aswell. I couldnt sketch or anything the stuff that i profuced looked worse then the back wall of a kindergarten class room. Ive gone to sketching and scanning then colouring by mouse. Tablets probably arent for everyone but keep at it untill you know whether or not its you.

Submitted by Kalescent on Fri, 19/03/04 - 6:03 AM Permalink

well ive only been "TABLET'ing" for about 2 weeks now - my Fiance's tablet broke ( Genius 1212HR III ) a nice big tablet - and when it did break - now i refuse to go back to painting with a mouse - although i have done in the past.

Now ive got a wacom graphire 3 and it rocks - tis a wee bit hard to get used to - but if your using it solid for a couple of days - youll really get the hang of it... i rarely use my mouse anymore. even use my tablet in max....

Submitted by hobonation on Fri, 19/03/04 - 6:05 AM Permalink

yeh, thanks. I know i can draw well with a mouse, so maybe they arent for me. I thought it would be the same as drawing in a sketch book or on papaer but i was unpleasantly suprised. O well, its still a valuable piece of equiptment, atleast now i fit in on sumea!

Submitted by MoonUnit on Fri, 19/03/04 - 8:06 AM Permalink

heh heh ditto to that hobo, but ive seen you produce some neat stuff and that was obviously done without a tablet

Submitted by matias on Fri, 19/03/04 - 8:31 PM Permalink

ok man, when I first got my tablet I really sucked for AGES, I mean months, it was quite embarrasing, but like HazarD, my tablet broke just recently and I couldn't live without it! I ran out and got a new one straight away! of course, I had $17 for the next week, bread and carrots people!
Um, yeah so just keep using it, and trust me, eventually you it wont even be a concious thing using your tablet!

Submitted by Makk on Sat, 20/03/04 - 12:02 AM Permalink

Heh, I've had mine for a few years and I cant still cant sketch very well with it.
If you find it to smooth to draw on put a piece of paper over it (or under) and that it will give it a bit more grip feel to it. For painting though, I find its the best.
Keep at it though, eventually you will get used to it and laugh at the day that you preferred using a mouse :)

Submitted by Johnn on Sat, 20/03/04 - 2:34 AM Permalink

hmmm, gotta get me a tablet...and a computer to attached it to! Does anyone actually do sketching/drawing with their tablet here, or is it used as a painting tool primarly?

The only time I have used a tablet was for photo collage work in Photoshop. I found the job took the same time but I had MUCH more accuracy masking complex shapes, and no 'dead wrist' at the end of the day.

Submitted by matias on Sat, 20/03/04 - 11:56 PM Permalink

I sometimes sketch with it, but I think much better on paper, I use it to finish my stuff, becuase undo comes in supa-handy, but on a sketch you dont worry about mistakes... Also I dont think a tablet give you the freedom of movement you get in real life, well a little tablet, I have no exp with those huge tablets, does anyone? If so enlighten us! (at the risk of jealous backlash) [:D]

Submitted by hobonation on Sun, 21/03/04 - 8:39 AM Permalink

mines the good ol' 4x5 Wacom graphire 3

Submitted by Kalescent on Sun, 21/03/04 - 1:07 PM Permalink

when you draw really quick lines,.. do you get rough edges ? almost like a line drawn with 5 or 6 points linked by straight lines ? instead of a smooth surved line ??

I get this with my new Grapire 3 ????? of course only when i draw lines super fast,.. but sometimes you gotta,... for like hair,.. or something.. i hope i didnt buy a dud ;)

Submitted by matias on Mon, 22/03/04 - 1:24 AM Permalink

yeah, mines a 4x5 graphire 3, I don't get so much rough edges as that it almost jags or catches doing fine detail, I think thats just something you got to work around with a small tablet. With that said, I had a really cheap Acecad green thing that was the same size but had more levels, it could handle small stuff but on a regular basis, it would just draw when the pen was in the recognized distant, not when you actually touched the tablet! That was really anoying! So I'll take the slight jagging action over just drawing willy-nilly over what you are doing! Ples the Graphire 3 looks sweet! haha

Submitted by hobonation on Mon, 22/03/04 - 1:34 AM Permalink

lol, yeh...i cant use mine,but it looks cool on my desk!

Submitted by matias on Mon, 22/03/04 - 2:05 AM Permalink

And isn't that what really counts people? [:D] But like I said before well, basically what everyone said, pratice. Perhaps after the Modelling comp is finished we could look into some skill building thing in Quick Activities...

Submitted by Kalescent on Mon, 22/03/04 - 2:54 AM Permalink

yeah mines a 6 x 8 - it goes good,.. but the old genius tab was a 12 x 12, and so far save the pressure sensativity - ive found it to be better in every way... + the genius tablet was only 150 bux 2 years ago....

damn the wacom is so Sexah tho!! the genius was a bloody eyesore - great big hunk of non-aerodynamic plastic, i mean,.. its gotta fly right when you throw it across the room in frustration,.. theres nothing worse than being pissed, throwing your tablet, and having it put your throwing arm to shame by hopelessly landing 2 feet from your arm due to lack of aerodynamic capabilities.... ... ahhh... yeah.

Submitted by matias on Mon, 22/03/04 - 3:05 AM Permalink

HAHA, oh man, there is nothing as frustating as a finicky tablet!! I found with my old one doing the rocking-back-and-forth-growling-while-shaking-the-computer-desk alot!!

Submitted by hobonation on Thu, 25/03/04 - 4:58 AM Permalink

GOD DAMN IT
Well, I've just drawn my first graphics tablet picture. Ive coloured it well and Im very happy with it. I quickly erase some of the original lines then hit save, and, waddyaknow.. "This program has experienced an error" send error report? then: "WE APPOLOGISE FOR THE INCONVINIENCE"
Poof* and its gone.

[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!]

I think ill join a cult[xx(]

Submitted by Kalescent on Thu, 25/03/04 - 7:42 AM Permalink

LMFAO that dude looks so funny!!!!!!!!! honestly you should make him a cartoon character - i can just seem him as the funiest bird type dude - doing really stupid things,.. like the white ninja comics ;)

Pity about the photoshop drama - if youve got a cracked version,.. then.. yeah.... .. dont let it put you off tho - you could start a cult following with that character there!!

Submitted by matias on Thu, 25/03/04 - 10:44 AM Permalink

On the bright side the bird has a perfect expression for that exact scenario![:p] Sorry, I know how shiet losing a heap of work can be. Seriously tho he has some attitude goin on and cartoon characters really need... well.. character! Sweet

Submitted by hobonation on Thu, 25/03/04 - 6:50 PM Permalink

hehe, yeh..he's the dark lord of Ravens. I've started drawing heaps of characters, like da ravens arch nemasis, the polar bear. N e ways I'm over it now...I'll start drawing him again.

O and I used Painter Classic, I really should install paintshop, I do have it somewhere.(a LEGAL version ill just add)

Submitted by Kane on Fri, 26/03/04 - 11:40 PM Permalink

bummer about the error Jake...

that bird is seriously sick looking tho!

can't wait to see the polar bear guy![:D]

Submitted by bullet21 on Sat, 27/03/04 - 1:55 AM Permalink

Hey hobo do u know flash. I would love to see your characters in a flash animation.

Submitted by hobonation on Mon, 29/03/04 - 12:40 AM Permalink

Yep I do flash animation. My Flash Characters are alot different to my freehand drawn characters though...

Submitted by Aven on Tue, 30/03/04 - 2:59 AM Permalink

if you are using to PS to inlarge the pic, make sure that you have the "Bicubic Sampling" option enables in the "Resize Image" Window. It is set to none at the moment (from the pixel town I bet ;) ).

If you are just using the "Free Transform" tool, then make sure that you have "Bicubic Sampling" enabled in your prefs. Sorry, I can't remember what pref tab it is under.

He looks really cool, but you may want to work at a slightly larger res, at it looks a little blurry :)